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Post by trunx Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:32 am

just a shot of a couple of phil bred salmons and normals..............
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Post by Phil Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:36 pm

the 2 normals where twins(both came out of the same birth sack).All 4 of those snakes are from the same litter.The twins where extremely small,and it looks like they are going to stay that way.Cool
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Post by trunx Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:46 pm

them salmons are due a shed, never had time to photograph the other 2.
them normals are sure gonna stay small, suits wheelie as they are hers now. obviously i feed them, clean them and generally look after them. but they are hers, apparenly....................
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Post by Tan Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:56 pm

trunx wrote:obviously i feed them, clean them and generally look after them. but they are hers, apparenly....................

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The Salmons are gorgeous and how interesting to know they are all litter mates yet an obvious size difference. Do twins tend to be smaller and stay so?
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Post by trunx Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:58 pm

i havent encounterd many twins myself. phil would maybe have came across more.....................
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Post by Tan Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:02 pm

Why is it when I read your reply I get a whole other image in my head....I'm off to poke out my minds eye.
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Post by trunx Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:09 pm

dont suppose you have a twin tan?......................
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Post by Phil Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:47 pm

These are the first twins i have persoanlly came across,usually when you have freshly born boas most have already broke out of their birth sacks.If these had already broke out i wouldnt even have known they where twins.

Im not really sure about twins always being smaller,but i suppose as they have to share the same birth space etc...........


If i had of had more space i would have kept these 2 out of pure curiosity,but also they are great looking little boas.
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Post by JoeR Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:52 pm

beautiful!
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Post by trunx Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:06 pm

i'll keep stickin pics up every few months. maybe they will keep growing as the salmons slow down, but their growth rate seems slower at the minute. they are alot more placid than the salmons too..................
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Post by Spiderman Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:15 am

That Salmon on the left is a stunner!
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Post by Warren_Booth Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:44 am

Cool snakes.
Twins are actually quite common in boids. Personally I have produced them in a litter of Sonorans back when I lived in Ireland. This was a litter of 50% poss hets from around 2002. THe second set I produced was from an albino to a pastel in 2007, and then this year that same male albino sired two sets of twins in the albino litter. One sac contained an albino and a het, and another contained two hets. Although twinning is common in reptiles, Ihave heard only a few reports of monozygotic twins.

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Post by Phil Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:40 am

If the twins in Trunx pics had of been identical i would deffinatly held them back.
Warren do you have any info about growth rates of twins born small? ie do they eventually grow to normal sized adults?
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Post by Warren_Booth Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:00 am

THe ones that I have seen never did. They eventually keeled over after about a year. Developmentally they appeared off.

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Post by Phil Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:02 am

Warren_Booth wrote:THe ones that I have seen never did. They eventually keeled over after about a year. Developmentally they appeared off.

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OH dear! thats not good!!
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