anyone no what morph this is?

please have a guess

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pic not great taken on phone will get more up tomorrow

Anery....type 2?

i dont think its an anery type 2 Karl maybe a one ,Im not sure myself just seen what other think but its not the run of the mil normal common boa( which I hate useing the word "common"for the Columbian Boa) sorry as it tends to but them in a lesser status than other boas but they are a great looking boa.

Is this your boa? Where did it originate? What price was on it? These can all help a lot to indicate what it might be.

It does seem to have anery in there alright....I've seen type 1's start to go brown at a young age, hence why I suggested a type 2 (which would be a Central American as I don't think type 2 anerys have popped up in Colombian BCIs yet). Looking at the markings I'm erring away from type 2's as nothing says CA boa to me. It certainly isn't an anery 2 Sonoran.

There is always the possibility that its an aberrant Colombian that, because it didn't result from a morph breeding, was moved on as it may or may not be genetic. A few boas are produced from 'non-morph' breedings each year that produce offspring which resemble some morphs out there.......the diversity of life and all that.

pacman wrote:i dont think its an anery type 2 Karl maybe a one ,Im not sure myself just seen what other think but its not the run of the mil normal common boa( which I hate useing the word "common"for the Columbian Boa) sorry as it tends to but them in a lesser status than other boas but they are a great looking boa.

as i said in PM i think it looks like an anery type 1,but hard to say from photos.

as for the columbian/common thing,im the opposite.I hate to see commons labled as columbian.Columbian refers to a specific locality,where as 99.99999% of the commons in the hobby have all had BCC,hog ilsland,CA blood crossed into them at some time or another.This doesn't in my opinion take anything away from them,common boas and the morphs they produce are in my opinion some of,if not the most beautiful boas in the hobby.Pure columbians and therefore boas that deserve the columbian label are undoubtedly one of the rarest locality boas in the hobby.With the amount of BCC blood in common boas i don't even like to see them labled as BCI.

I have 6 commons in my collection,2 normals and 4 morphs,they are all outstandly beautiful boas.40 odd years of selective breeding has today produced some of the most beautiful commons we have ever seen.

cough,cough sorry dudes rants over

Back on topic,beautiful boa Paul,where did you get it? was it sold as an anery?

heres more of him
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These came out a bit big for some reason?? Heres a link to the proper sized ones

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Again it may just be the p[ics but is that not red pigment in the tail?
That is very strangeindeed,it seems to have no black pigment at all untill the start of the tail?

can you get some clearer closeup shots of the tail sadles and maybe some of the head and eyes

Hows it going Phil, I took these new ones for Paul, no close up head shots, or eye shots unfortunately.. Might be able to take more soon..

These ones blew up huge, even though I thought i had re-sized them, there is a link there I see though, so these might give a better idea.

With these new photos, there is still, as you said, some red/ brown pigment in the tail, although the glare in some of them is slightly exaggerating the colour of that pigment.

Paul brought this boa round to mine to get some new photos, and after seeing it, I have to say, it is a very striking looking boa, and would immediately catch your eye as being something a little out of the ordinary; if there was 10 speckles on it from head to tail, I'd be surprised; very clean looking boa, and definitely not something you'd expect to see from a "normal" pairing.

But like Karl said, sometimes nature can throw out something that looks like what we would class as a morph, but it may not be genetic. Then again, maybe it is genetic, and it'd be cool to find out.

I'll try get those head and eye shots posted up mate, you might be able to spot something from them.

Matt

if there is red pigment in the tail then it is not an anery,which is actually pretty cool as it makes this animal even more unusual.very unusual animal indeed,i am at a complete loss! The only thing i can suggest is that it is some sort of hypo due to the lack of black pigment.And then again although it has red pigment it also seems to be reduced to a certain extent lol real head pickler,awsome!

Paul,have you put pics up on any of the US forums? maybe one of those guys may have some ideas.You could try [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] forum.

thanks for the in put and will get more pic of him in a while as i cant find lead to the camera,i havent put any on any US forums but i will put some up on that forum im also on another forum over there ill put them up also i will let u no how i get on its just a pitty I dont no more about him.

Sorta looks like a ghost boa

Jack W Chrondo wrote:Sorta looks like a ghost boa

Does look like a ghost,but the fact that it has red pigment! also ghost boas are still kind of expensive.Its unlikly somone spent the money on one and then forgot what it was and sold it on whithout any details,but it could happen,but red pigment!

Rather than it being a morph, the more I look at it it has the look of a locality or locality intergrade.....there were a dose of Hog Island x Colombian Common BCIs around not so long ago. Take a nice clean Hog Island and you have that boa excluding the tail.....hence why maybe some Colombian blood in there could darken the tail saddles?

What age is the boa and whats its temperament like?

yes ur right Karl not a morph but what is the parents hope its not a croos hogg but i dont no

temperment grand like a puppy without the bites, age id say, early last year

and as phil asked heres more head shots and tail
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i give up!

At first glance it resembles a ghost,but a ghost is a hypo anery and it doesn't quite fit.In my eyes the black on the tail comes for to far up for it to be hypo,and the red on the tail seems to rule out anery.Karl made some good pionts about it being across of some discription but i don't see any hog ilsland in this guy and can't think of anything that when crossed with a common would make such an unusual looking boa.

The answers probably simple but its an answer i don't know!

thanks everybody for their info and time on this

I've nothing to add to this thread apart from what ever it is it is very nice Paul (and what an interesting read this thread is)

my dwarf boa has a tale like it, but its more of a cream body so just see how it colours up as it gets older...

got some more info to day the parents were 2 common boas .
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After doing some research on this boa the parents were two common boas , there is no hog island in there at all as Ben doesn't sale and wouldn't sell hog crosses , which is great and again i'd like to thank eveyone for their input

Glad you were able to get to the bottom of its parentage Paul!

Thanks karl