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Post by barney Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:00 am

ok there hatching and so far out are some motleys. a sunspot and what looks 2 be a cubed, a motley stripe and 1 were it starts of with a stripe then fades away so am well pleased ;D this is y i luv corn snakes

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Post by barney Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:05 pm

i grabed a few pic as i was putting some of them in 2 tubs ;D [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
will try and get a few better 1s when fed and shed

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Post by St3ve76 Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:19 am

Congrats on the new arrivals.
Love that third one !!!!!

What did you breed ?
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Post by Phil Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:11 am

nice,the 2 stripes look like stripes and not motley stripes,very nice

what where the parents?
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Post by Rezin8er Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:48 am

Looking good Barney , Congrats .

I don,t think there can be any homo stripes in there Phil .
I think from memory Barney paired an Amel motley X Amel motley het Caramel (Bribrian) .

Barney may well correct me on that one .
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Post by barney Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:42 pm

ur right nikki unless brians snake was het stripe??? and i dont know all the hets of the other snake

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Post by Phil Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:35 am

if the snake from Brian is from his cubed x butter motley,then it is het stripe
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Post by Rezin8er Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:27 am

I was of the understanding that a Homo Motley can,t be het Stripe
as both the locus are taken by the motley gene . Or something like that ??
Just as you can,t have Stripe het motley .
Its either motley , stripe or het motley and stripe .

I may have this wrong and Phil will come and bust my genetic bubble ...
lol!
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Post by Phil Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:06 am

Brians sunspot female is homo stripe,he bred it to a homo motley,which would make all the young het motley and het stripe.
corns that are het motley and het stripe are visually motley as motley is dominant over stripe.
These het motley and het stripe are usually refered to as motley het stripe.

Motleys can be highly variable wether or not the striped gene is thrown into the mix,the stripe gene doesnt actually effect the visual look of het motley het stirped corns.

When identifying visual motleys and homo stripe you look at the 3 stripes on the back of the corn.
On a visual striped motleys the lighter stripe in the center of the back is thinner than the 2 darker stripes either side.
on a homo stripe the stripe in the center of the back is thicker than the 2 darker stripes either side.

Motley and stripe work together in the same way ultra and motley do,only difference is ultra and motley are co-dominant where as motley is dominant over stripe.

not sure if that helps or not lol


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Post by thoth Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:15 am

Homo Snakes ?
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Post by thoth Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:17 am

sorry, about that, couldnt resist. well pleased 64659
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Post by Phil Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:22 am

thoth wrote:Homo Snakes ?

lol,lol

homo is short for homozygous
Homozygous is a word we use to decribe a snake that hase 2 copies of a gene.An albino corn is homo(homozygous) for albino.

Het is short for hetrozygous
Hetrozygous is a word we use to describe a snake that has one copy of a gene.Hets albinos carry the albino gene but as they only have one copy they are visually normal.
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Post by thoth Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:27 am

Phil wrote:
thoth wrote:Homo Snakes ?

lol,lol

homo is short for homozygous
Homozygous is a word we use to decribe a snake that hase 2 copies of a gene.An albino corn is homo(homozygous) for albino.

Het is short for hetrozygous
Hetrozygous is a word we use to describe a snake that has one copy of a gene.Hets albinos carry the albino gene but as they only have one copy they are visually normal.

Actually that was very well explained Phil, Confusing as in most other things, Homo usually means for a singular item and hetero means two !

Thanks for clearing that up Very Happy
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Post by Rezin8er Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:52 am

Phil wrote:Brians sunspot female is homo stripe,he bred it to a homo motley,which would make all the young het motley and het stripe.
corns that are het motley and het stripe are visually motley as motley is dominant over stripe.
These het motley and het stripe are usually refered to as motley het stripe.

Motleys can be highly variable wether or not the striped gene is thrown into the mix,the stripe gene doesnt actually effect the visual look of het motley het stirped corns.

When identifying visual motleys and homo stripe you look at the 3 stripes on the back of the corn.
On a visual striped motleys the lighter stripe in the center of the back is thinner than the 2 darker stripes either side.
on a homo stripe the stripe in the center of the back is thicker than the 2 darker stripes either side.

Motley and stripe work together in the same way ultra and motley do,only difference is ultra and motley are co-dominant where as motley is dominant over stripe.

not sure if that helps or not lol


Cheers Phil , that helped me out .

So for some of Barney,s hatchling to be Homo stripe but parents would need to be het Motley/Stripes .
If only one was het Motley/Stripe and the other Homo Motley some of the hatchling would be het Motley/Stripe .
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Post by Phil Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:42 am

yeah pretty much,a couple of the hatchl;ings looks like stripes to me(large stripe up the center and thinner stripes either side),i know the snake that came from brian is het stripe,so im assumming the other must be motley het stripe also.

ofcourse when working with a lot of corn Genes you need to test breed to be 100% sure,but i would be happy to buy those 2 as stripes.
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Post by barney Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:22 am

am glad 2 c people are talking about corns again. as i think that they have sort of been put 2 the back of peoples minds. and dont under stand y as they are so many cracking colours out there

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Post by Phil Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:27 pm

i agree!
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Post by Bribrian Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:57 pm

Phil wrote:Brians sunspot female is homo stripe,he bred it to a homo motley,which would make all the young het motley and het stripe.
corns that are het motley and het stripe are visually motley as motley is dominant over stripe.
These het motley and het stripe are usually refered to as motley het stripe.

Motleys can be highly variable wether or not the striped gene is thrown into the mix,the stripe gene doesnt actually effect the visual look of het motley het stirped corns.

When identifying visual motleys and homo stripe you look at the 3 stripes on the back of the corn.
On a visual striped motleys the lighter stripe in the center of the back is thinner than the 2 darker stripes either side.
on a homo stripe the stripe in the center of the back is thicker than the 2 darker stripes either side.

Motley and stripe work together in the same way ultra and motley do,only difference is ultra and motley are co-dominant where as motley is dominant over stripe.

not sure if that helps or not lol

A perfect explanation mate & yep, the snake paired to the one that came from me must have the stripe gene as mine genetically are Amel Motleys het caramel & stripe........

Congrats Barney, looks like a lovely clutch.............. well pleased 990653
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Post by barney Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:59 am

they are cracking and all bar 1 have been feeding so am over the moon

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