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Post by snake_ni Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:14 pm

Looking through a few photos and came across my wee male reduced 50% Jungle Jag
he's one of the most docile snake in our collection.
first two pic's was took 4 months after I got him in 2008

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next two was from last year ................ a wee bit bigger! lol[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Post by trunx Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:20 pm

hes brilliant mate. kinda jealous! i remeber when you got him i think......
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Post by jonty Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:21 pm

now that is one stunning carpet, you have good taste Tommy Reduced 50% Jungle Jag 726292
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Post by snake_ni Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:44 pm

Thanks Marty lol

@trunx, maybe sort ya with a wee male to go with your Jungle female, if things work out this year Wink
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Post by Buddy Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:00 pm

Definately put a wee bit of beef on in the last 2 years there.....nice jag
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Post by trunx Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:14 pm

maybe take you up on that.................
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Post by Tan Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:21 pm

WOW, that's a big difference and what a lovely animal. June looks completely at home with him too Reduced 50% Jungle Jag 792195
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Post by MarkJD Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:29 pm

Beautiful snake there. The size now is amazing too. Do you have any females? The reduced marking from a genetic point of view is this dominant or how does it play out?
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Post by Buddy Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:34 pm

Just noticed....is that a jag to jag pairing ?
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Post by Phil Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:39 pm

Tommy that is one stunning jag,stunning


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Post by MarkJD Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:43 pm

Buddy wrote:Just noticed....is that a jag to jag pairing ?

I was reading elsewhere today that the Jag x Jag paring can lead to some problems, is that the case? Either way this is a beautiful snake non the less even if it is.
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Post by snake_ni Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:54 pm

Thanks everyone :)
Buddy wrote:
Just noticed....is that a jag to jag pairing ?
It's a (Marc Mense) reduced 50% Jungle Jag male to a (Paul harris) 50% Jungle Jag female

MarkJD wrote:
I was reading elsewhere today that the Jag x Jag paring can lead to some problems, is that the case? Either way this is a beautiful snake non the less even if it is.
Haven't heard of any problems! from 50% Jungle Jag parings! ............ maybe Karl could shed some light on it?
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Post by Buddy Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:12 pm

There is a risk of jag x jag pairings throwing leucistics......these normally die in the egg or just after hatching. The rest of the clutch should be fine though I think but best to let Karl fill in the blanks here I'd say....know a few breeders have advised me against jag x jag pairings though

here's a link to the jag man's pairing outcomes, just ignore the first few paragraphs as it is in english further down....

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Post by snake_ni Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:30 pm

Aye mate, know all about the leucistics with Jag x Jag, hopefully someday we'll see one .......... or breed one that will survive ............ and hopefully that someone is me! lol
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Post by WAMA Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:25 am

Stunning

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Post by MarkJD Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:31 am

If it is you snake_ni can i have a cut? :) haha
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Post by trunx Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:55 am

no mark, you cant. me and tommy already have an agreement.........
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Post by MarkJD Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:03 am

Pfft.. He is not half as loving as i can be!
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:03 am

mate imo thats the nicest jag ive seen Reduced 50% Jungle Jag 990653 and i think you could safetly say he,s grew a bit lol!

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Post by snake_ni Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:14 am

MarkJD wrote:Pfft.. He is not half as loving as i can be!
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Thanks Davy, your babies would grow that in a few months! lol
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Post by lisafay Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:47 pm

Gorgeous Tommy, and bigger than I thought a JJ would get, with the jungle influence. ( I know next to nothing about carpets really) My 07 boy was so much smaller.
That is such a beautiful snake, best of luck with the breeding!
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Post by trunx Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:07 pm

MarkJD wrote:Pfft.. He is not half as loving as i can be!

but im bendier..............
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Post by morelia Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:42 am

Only seeing this now - major congrats Tommy!

Breeding Jag x Jag should in theory produce a clutch of which 25% will die from the lethal homozygous / 'super' Jag condition i.e. leucistic. Most never make it full term in the egg and the few that do usually last a few weeks or months if your very lucky. It appears that the homozygous Jag condition affects the lungs / breathing function as it is when the animal has to switch to breathing atmospheric air (i.e. close to hatching) that most fatalities seem to occur.

50% Jungle Jags will still be quite large as they only have 50% Jungle influence and its not at all uncommon for Jungles to reach 7ft; the 75% and 88% Jungle Jags are much smaller due to the greater Jungle influence in their genetics.

For 50%ers Tommy they are some of the best out there - I have everything crossed fror ya!
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